Ampco-Pittsburgh Corp (AP) Q3 2024 Earnings Call Highlights: Navigating Challenges with Strategic Growth Initiatives

Despite a decline in net sales, Ampco-Pittsburgh Corp (AP) focuses on operational efficiencies and future growth opportunities.

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Nov 13, 2024
Summary
  • Operating Income: $1.9 million for Q3 2024 and $7 million for the nine-month period.
  • Net Sales: $96.2 million for Q3 2024, a decline of 5.9% compared to Q3 2023.
  • Net Loss: $2 million or $0.10 per diluted share for Q3 2024.
  • Forged and Cast Engineered Products Segment Sales: $67.2 million for Q3 2024, down from $73.6 million in Q3 2023.
  • Forged and Cast Engineered Products Segment Income: $2.5 million for Q3 2024, up from $1.4 million in Q3 2023.
  • Air & Liquid Processing Segment Revenue: Consistent with prior year for Q3, with a year-to-date increase of 13%.
  • Interest Expense: Approximately $3 million for Q3 2024, up by $0.5 million from Q3 2023.
  • Total Backlog: $383.6 million as of September 30, 2024, an increase of approximately $4.6 million from December 31, 2023.
  • Net Cash Flows from Operating Activities: $10.6 million for the nine months ended September 30, 2024.
  • Capital Expenditures: $2.9 million for Q3 2024, or $2.4 million net of government grant funding.
  • Cash on Hand: $11.8 million as of September 30, 2024.
  • Undrawn Credit Facility Availability: $20.5 million as of September 30, 2024.
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Release Date: November 12, 2024

For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.

Positive Points

  • Ampco-Pittsburgh Corp (AP, Financial) reported operating income of $1.9 million for Q3 2024, indicating improved margins and operating efficiencies.
  • The backlog increased for the quarter, with significant orders from the pharmaceutical market and the US Navy, positioning the company for future growth.
  • Air & Liquid Systems Corporation saw a 13% year-to-date revenue increase, driven by increased shipments and additional manufacturing capacity.
  • Recent capital investments in the Forged and Cast Engineered Products segment have led to improved operational efficiencies and pricing strategies.
  • The company is poised to benefit from the reopening of US nuclear plants and increased demand in the nuclear market, particularly for heat exchangers.

Negative Points

  • Net sales for Q3 2024 declined by 5.9% compared to the same period in 2023, primarily due to lower shipment volumes and surcharge pass-through revenues.
  • The company reported a net loss of $2 million for Q3 2024, compared to a net income of $0.8 million in Q3 2023.
  • Interest expenses increased by $0.5 million due to higher equipment financing debt and higher average interest rates.
  • The income tax provision increased due to a valuation allowance on the net deferred tax assets of the UK operations, impacting the overall tax benefits.
  • Market conditions remain challenging, with European and North American steel producers operating below pre-pandemic levels due to economic uncertainties and increased imports from China.

Q & A Highlights

Q: Brett, considering the company's progress since the rights offering four years ago, do you have better visibility on future goals and timelines?
A: J. Brett McBrayer, CEO, stated that they have targeted actions for restructuring and are focused on reducing debt. Although progress has been slower than desired, they aim to execute significant solutions within the next 12 to 24 months.

Q: Are there plans to reduce the company's debt significantly?
A: J. Brett McBrayer, CEO, confirmed that reducing debt is a clear focus and on their radar.

Q: Regarding the Forged and Engineered Products segment, is fracking the major market for potential revenue increase?
A: Samuel Lyon, President of Union Electric Steel Corporation, explained that both fracking and general industrial distribution markets are significant. They recently received a small frac block order, indicating potential recovery.

Q: Can you quantify the impact of below-market contracts on operating results?
A: David Anderson, President of Air and Liquid Systems Corporation, estimated the impact to be between $0.5 million to $1 million, with most of these contracts concluding by the end of the year.

Q: Could you review the cash flow dynamics year-to-date and any remaining inflows from working capital reduction?
A: Michael McAuley, CFO, noted a release of working capital contributing to positive cash flow from operating activities, totaling $10.6 million year-to-date, despite higher pension contributions.

For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.